Yes, I am quite … Yes, I am quite familiar with how this all works. My point is that the wiring needs to be managed, routed, punched down, etc, in the MDF, IDFs, wiring closets, etc., in either scenario. The only difference is that the wiring and the work is distributed in your scenario and centralized in the closet shown in the video. You, on the other hand, seem to be focusing mainly on ad hominem attacks and insults. Given this, I will not be continuing this conversation.
Ok so picture 10 … Ok so picture 10 desktops all connected to a switch, then another set of 10 desktops are connected to another switch and both switches are connected to a 60 port router, and each port on that Cisco Catalyst 4000 series has switches -> workstations/VoIP phones connected to it. This is just simple Net+ structure. Are you like 12?
Even if the core … Even if the core router(s) only have 60 ports, each station needs to be terminated somewhere. With good cable management practice, there’s not a huge difference in effort between distributed and centralized wiring.
Um, you dont see … Um, you dont see how a 60 port router compared to thousands of phone lines differ?
You obviously dont know how VoIP works. I once worked for a company that had VoIP for almost everything they used. The physical land lines were just backups in case the network went down. They had over 2,500 employees and prolly 7000 phone numbers(extensions). I used to run the Asterisk servers, well more like help, Cause something ed up every once in a while. Learn before you speak on something.
I don’t see how … I don’t see how that would necessarily help. The wires have to be terminated somewhere whether they’re voice or Ethernet. Really, the main thing I see wrong with this room is that they should have kept the station cables in their bundles until closer to the punchdown blocks. Also, whatever the green panel at 0:31 is (lightning protector for outside runs maybe?) could use to be tidied up with some wire ties or similar.
In a perfect world … In a perfect world I like to see the MDF closet set up. From left to right, LEC POE D-mark, then C-lec RJ21xs, smart jack area, house cable for IDFs then station cables, then system cables, finally the system.
I like the new 110 … I like the new 110 application is that a extended D-mark? I see no Desi strips to identify the 300 pair blocks?? oops its just copper right ?? hahaha labels guys labels.
89/B’s/66 blocks … 89/B’s/66 blocks are cheaper than 110. And 66 blocks are used for system connectivity ie, stations and trunks. What the person has shown us here is how not to wire a closet. But because every guy with a punch tool and Butt set comes in and does what ever they want. I always got the escalation calls. Large business system specialist. Thank you, Thank you no applause please 21 plus years.
ummmmmm WTF? all … ummmmmm WTF? all those 66 blocks are doing what exactly? i mean come on, 66 blocks are usefull only for DSL and POTS and thats about it.
whoever wired that building wasnt N+ certified, thats for sure.
I’v seen telecom … I’v seen telecom closets all over and one things true, never proper planning for future growth and standardization. You know your good when you can still figure out what they have through the mess. !!!!! LOL Smart Jacks in the middle of everything then the customer says there is static on my line one You Find the alarm company used line one! for= (the alarm system)!!! Hey use the fax line O.K. this will cause less interruption to the customer or better yet get a POTS line for it.
Mission Impossible telephone room.
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
yeah that room …
yeah that room looks very familiar lol
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
Wow that looks like …
Wow that looks like a building in Charleston,Wv. I might have had a hand in it.
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
Yes, I am quite …
Yes, I am quite familiar with how this all works. My point is that the wiring needs to be managed, routed, punched down, etc, in the MDF, IDFs, wiring closets, etc., in either scenario. The only difference is that the wiring and the work is distributed in your scenario and centralized in the closet shown in the video. You, on the other hand, seem to be focusing mainly on ad hominem attacks and insults. Given this, I will not be continuing this conversation.
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
Ok so picture 10 …
Ok so picture 10 desktops all connected to a switch, then another set of 10 desktops are connected to another switch and both switches are connected to a 60 port router, and each port on that Cisco Catalyst 4000 series has switches -> workstations/VoIP phones connected to it. This is just simple Net+ structure. Are you like 12?
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
Even if the core …
Even if the core router(s) only have 60 ports, each station needs to be terminated somewhere. With good cable management practice, there’s not a huge difference in effort between distributed and centralized wiring.
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
Um, you dont see …
Um, you dont see how a 60 port router compared to thousands of phone lines differ?
You obviously dont know how VoIP works. I once worked for a company that had VoIP for almost everything they used. The physical land lines were just backups in case the network went down. They had over 2,500 employees and prolly 7000 phone numbers(extensions). I used to run the Asterisk servers, well more like help, Cause something ed up every once in a while. Learn before you speak on something.
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
I don’t see how …
I don’t see how that would necessarily help. The wires have to be terminated somewhere whether they’re voice or Ethernet. Really, the main thing I see wrong with this room is that they should have kept the station cables in their bundles until closer to the punchdown blocks. Also, whatever the green panel at 0:31 is (lightning protector for outside runs maybe?) could use to be tidied up with some wire ties or similar.
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
This is why VoIP …
This is why VoIP must be put in play especially for larger networks.
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
o, god, if one …
o, god, if one thing went wrong it would be like imposable to find a solution
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
this must be a huge …
this must be a huge building, i worked o avaya IP phones at owrk
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
They simply attach …
They simply attach another cable, if something is broken
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
holy …
holy …
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
Looks like “some” …
Looks like “some” work
by the way, i think the music fits verry well
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
Piece of cake. With …
Piece of cake. With a toner and a probe, I’ll find anything.
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
they must be having …
they must be having alot of cross talk issues with all those 66 blocks and hundreds of pairs.
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
yes sireee… that …
yes sireee… that closet is a ING nightmare.
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
I’d rip it out and …
I’d rip it out and replace it with IP Phones, then sue for pain and suffering.
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
haha! what a mess! …
haha! what a mess! sadly, i’ve seen worse!
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
hmmm…
Is this …
hmmm…
Is this all for a PBX? i mean, there are a of alot of twisted pairs in that room.
At least it has 66 blocks, but whoever has to figure out which wire goes where to fix problems and etc, is gonna have a of a hard time.
That closet is a rats nest of wires.
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
In a perfect world …
In a perfect world I like to see the MDF closet set up. From left to right, LEC POE D-mark, then C-lec RJ21xs, smart jack area, house cable for IDFs then station cables, then system cables, finally the system.
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
I like the new 110 …
I like the new 110 application is that a extended D-mark? I see no Desi strips to identify the 300 pair blocks?? oops its just copper right ?? hahaha labels guys labels.
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
89/B’s/66 blocks …
89/B’s/66 blocks are cheaper than 110. And 66 blocks are used for system connectivity ie, stations and trunks. What the person has shown us here is how not to wire a closet. But because every guy with a punch tool and Butt set comes in and does what ever they want. I always got the escalation calls. Large business system specialist. Thank you, Thank you no applause please 21 plus years.
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
ummmmmm WTF? all …
ummmmmm WTF? all those 66 blocks are doing what exactly? i mean come on, 66 blocks are usefull only for DSL and POTS and thats about it.
whoever wired that building wasnt N+ certified, thats for sure.
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
I’v seen telecom …
I’v seen telecom closets all over and one things true, never proper planning for future growth and standardization. You know your good when you can still figure out what they have through the mess. !!!!! LOL Smart Jacks in the middle of everything then the customer says there is static on my line one You Find the alarm company used line one! for= (the alarm system)!!! Hey use the fax line O.K. this will cause less interruption to the customer or better yet get a POTS line for it.
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
Ughh. The 110 …
Ughh. The 110 blocks are bad enough let alone those R66. I see a T1 stuffed in amoungst all the mess.
I’d love to spend a day and clean all that up!
One thing….BIX Blocks and D-Frames